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seekpeace91
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Is the NF movement something based on a simple plan for preservation of whites and our culture and customs or does it contain nazi philosophies? i just need to clear the air here. before making a plan i need to know what i would be getting involved with. thankyou.

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It is more of the former than the later, but it's worth noting that several critical components of the proposed Constitution have in them a basis in National Socialist philosophy and economic doctrine. As it stands, the Party doesn't require National Socialism of anyone, but there are plenty of National Socialists involved. If nothing else, you would benefit from reading the Northwest Independence Novels (which are available in free PDF format, Private Message me if interested.)

I understand the curiosity around the subject. Hitler and National Socialism are difficult to wrap one's mind around when coming out of the race-haze that is modern society. I, too, was skeptical after going full-on racial, especially since I wasn't sure what direction was up due to still figuring out race. Further, being opposed to Communism my entire adult life and buying into the lie that socialism is always a left-wing and/or collectivist concept, I tended to ignore it even if I were entirely down on the Jew. As I learned more about real history (and conversely, began to reconsider the lies I had been told both in school and church,) I softened to the point where I read Mein Kampf and came to the conclusion Adolf Hitler and I didn't have any political differences.

As I'm covering the Real Politics material I'm working on, I'll eventually come around to the harder issues with a quick stop at National Socialism.
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Some of us are National Socialists, yes, including myself, but we have people of every White political and religious tendencies associated with the NF--Christian, pagans, Christian Identity, Second Amendment people, sovereign citizen types, survivalists, what have you. We are a movement of blood, not faith.

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okay, cool. i do get somewhat concerned when i see the socialist thing, as i always associated it with negative connotations. also quickly is the north west safe anymore considering the fukushima radiation spill a few years ago? i hear the radiation has recently made its way to the west coast of north america! :?

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It's too hard to tell, honestly. The only consistent information on it comes from assholes like Alex Jones or from stupid pictures which are passed around social networking websites. I did a little number-crunching on the radioactive tonnage which is supposedly seeping out into the ocean and the numbers don't make any sense. There's not that much radioactive material in all of Japan, let alone a single power plant. The trouble with asking questions about complex scientific subjects is that most people don't understand enough science to figure things out on their own. Further, the reality of the situation is that the fringe media is only going to play it up because it's a really wild story (provided it's true) and they can't really be trusted. Of course, the mainstream media can't be trusted either, but that doesn't discount the ability of non-mainstream sources to get something wrong.

A comrade and I had a face-to-face conversation about this sort of thing a few weeks ago. We're both scientists and we had a really good time discussing general scientific literacy among the population. No one out here is glowing green or dropping over and the stupid pictures on the internet of funny-looking fish never seem to have a source on them. I'm starting to suspect someone wants to discredit alternative media (especially on the internet) so they started making false infographics for the unsuspecting (and usually alarmist) fringe political types among us to send around to our friends.
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seekpeace91 wrote:okay, cool. i do get somewhat concerned when i see the socialist thing, as i always associated it with negative connotations. also quickly is the north west safe anymore considering the fukushima radiation spill a few years ago? i hear the radiation has recently made its way to the west coast of north america! :?
On the "socialist thing". National Socialism as developed and practiced in Germany during the 3rd Reich is not the same as the current Euro Socialism developed by Communist Jews. Under Socialism, able white people work to feed to system which then gives benefits to non-whites and white trash who suck on the teat of the system, thus enslaving the white people to the Jew system. National Socialism is whites only, working as an organism in support of only white people where no one was sucking off the system but everyone producing something to benefit all. People were paid money and barter in kind for their production. National Socialism brought Germany out of a massive depression caused by WWI whereas Socialism is crashing Europe and the US into a deep depression.
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Having done a little reading, and a lot more thinking I have come to the conclusion that some new form of National Socialism is the only hope for creating a new white homeland. It provides the kind of structure and order that would be needed to undo all the harm that has been done over the last century. I dont subscribe to absolutely ALL the aspects of classical national socialism, but I do recognize that I will have to accept some things in order to get the things I see as important. I have come to the conclusion that the thing that matters most is the survival of our white race. Anything else is just a side issue. Something we can work out at a later date. Issues of religion, social issues, and things like that will have to wait until we settle the burning issue. DO we survive as a race? I have listened to others speak on social issues, things like immigration and demographics in the cities, all of which wont mean squat if we found our own nation. We have to change our focus. Stop thinking about changing America and start thinking about creating something new. Something just for us. When the founding fathers of this country met to create America they did so with the idea of creating a union of several states. Each united for the common interests, but seperate for their individual goals. This contract has been broken, and was broken a long time ago. We now have a Royal president who rules by Executive Order, instead of abiding by the process of creating laws as laid down in the Constitution. In founding our own nation we will be doing nothing more than exercising our Constitutional rights as free citizens of the Original United States of America, not this polyglot abortion they call the New World Order. If in doing that it means I am guilty of treason, then so be it. I am a traitor. I am a traitor to every little dictator in a government office in America. I am a traitor to every lie we have ever been told by our teachers, and those in power over us. Call me traitor or terrorist, or anything you like, as long as I can call myself a free white man.

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I pledge Allegiance to Adolf Hitler
The Immortal Leader of our Race
And to the New Order for which He stands
One Great Cause Sacred and Invincible
The hope and future of all Aryan Men
Heil Hitler! Above all else We shall Rise Again 88
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William, have you received a White Book and an intro packet of literature? If not, e-mail me at nwnet@earthlink.net and give me a name and address.

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Yes Sir , White Book received and read . Thank you

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