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Goat dancers

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:13 pm
by JimEE
After listening to a lot of RFN, I just have to ask... what is a Goat Dancer, and what is the origin of the phrase?

Re: Goat dancers

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:57 am
by andydonner
"Goat Dancers" were young men (usually scantily clad, if I understand the story correctly) that actually participated in a sort of dance where an actual goat was present for... I'm honestly not sure what. I don't remember for sure which White Nationalist outfit did this and it probably wouldn't be wise to name it regardless. Harold used this term as a catch-all label for various problematic WNist leaders and wannabe leaders from "the nutty nineties." Harold frequently did not get on well with most others in WNism and there were two or three major personalities and/or outfits run by these personalities that produced some very damaged people in accordance with the personal and character defects of those in charge.

You may have noticed that WNism has never been popular. It's true that the lion's share of that is due to propaganda, but among those who might be receptive to the ideas therein, WNism has an even worse reputation because of the people who are attracted to it. Instead of dealing with their demons, these people made life hell for people such as Harold who would not stay silent about these matters. This is actually deadly serious because normal people who are serious about the Movement have been put off or even driven out by the behavior of "goat dancers" for several decades. What might we have accomplished if that were not the case? Has it gone on for so long that we're out of time? I honestly don't think so, but it bears asking.

If you're curious about the whole story of White Nationalism, you can Google for a document called "A Brief History of the White Nationalist Movement" which was cribbed from many different sources. A couple of the sections therein (which, if memory serves, are the Ben Klassen and Tom Metzger items) are exact duplicates of some of Harold's work from the relevant time periods. Be warned, though, this is a very depressing read and it's best taken in chunks.

Re: Goat dancers

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:05 pm
by JimEE
Now that I have a bit more background on this, I clearly posted in the wrong forum section. Thanks for the link; while fascinating, it was a fairly depressing read as you mentioned.